Is there still decent diy speaker kits out there?

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  1. Chris Slade

    Chris Slade Well-Known Member Top Poster

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    So almost full wood working and metal working shop equipment in the garage now. Today I made a custom floor stand for a 65" panny plasma....... (that is what he wanted)

    Anyway I am thinking I might but a decent set of speakers on the to do list. Can be floor standing or book shelf, don't want to do much electronic work (but I can), and I would even consider and active design. These need to be pretty close to full range I would think. I haven't went looking for kits in years. I don't even know who is still in the game.
     
  2. Dustin B

    Dustin B Well-Known Member

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    This site has some pretty nice stuff. I bought htm12 and volt10 kits I will be building when I get my theater room up and running in its new location. Phase one pushed till next summer though so it will be a while.

    DIY SOUND GROUP
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Chris Slade Well-Known Member Top Poster

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    Thanks. Quickly scanning those two sites, makes me think I should just find a decent set of used speakers. PSB, Monitor, Focal or something.
     
  5. Phil Rose

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    Is Madisound still in the business??
     
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    Saurav Well-Known Member

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    If you aren't interested in assembling crossovers, I think there are (were?) some kits that you could buy with pre-assembled crossovers, or people who would assemble them for you for a fee. That would let you focus on the woodworking part.

    Buying a used pair of speakers will be a lot faster and less work :)
     
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    Dustin B Well-Known Member

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    What diy stuff do you remember that prompted you to ask the question? What is it about what you see on those sites that makes you draw that conclusion?
     
  8. DYohn

    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    DIY is not for saving money and certainly not for saving time if that's what you are tying to do...
     
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    Dustin B Well-Known Member

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    Saving time, never ever heard that listed as a benefit of diy.

    The saving money part I'd disagree with. Few people are in the position where they can just choose to work some extra hours to make more money than they could save. More are in the position that the time it would take is worth more to them then the money saved.
     
  10. DYohn

    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Without a doubt you can get more for your money with DIY as long as you know what you're doing, but anyone who thinks it's a cheap hobby or a way to buy cheap speakers is not being honest.
     
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    If you don’t want to make your crossovers, go with full range drivers. You can put 1 or more drivers in the cab. Full range drivers have a great type of soul of the sound coming from them.
    They have a lot of free software on the web just for making a single driver full range speakers
    I had a set using some 6.5 drivers and they were great for jazz and classical and classic rock
    And the other set I made used 10” drivers and they worked with more types of music and I had them in a tower that was nearly 5 feet tall Your not going to get the crazy lows or highs from a full range driver but you will get a more natural sound from them
     
  12. Carl V

    Carl V Well-Known Member Donor Top Poster

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    What spoiled your enthusiasm?;)

    Meniscus audio has some good choices
    & as Saurav states they will do your XO.
    GR Reseach
    the Reborn CSS


    and as the above posters said...it takes time effort & equipment.
    You seem to have to have those resources & skills. Or Look for
    that used pair of Arro speakers you once lusted for.
     
  13. Phil A

    Phil A Well-Known Member Top Poster

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    It certainly takes lots of time and effort. I have a pair of GR Research (N-3) speakers (http://gr-research.com/n3.aspx) in my upstairs bonus room (pic below). They were built by someone else. I traded a pair of used big (Mobile Fidelity) bookshelf speakers for them (just wanted floorstanders as I had crappy stands (now using the stands for surround speakers in another system which is fine). I had gotten that pair of bookshelf speakers used via trading a modded tuner for them years back. I know someone who built a pair of nice bookshelf speakers and his cost (without stands) was $2k. They look nice (and sound great) from the front but the extended port on the back from PVC looks bad. I've seen lots of other DIY stuff (e.g. open baffle) and for me it is just easier to buy something used. I know someone who started a DIY as open baffle and then ended up doing an enclosure. They sounded OK but required lots of effort and he ended up getting a really wonderful deal on a dealer's demo speakers and now the DIY is just sitting in his garage collecting dust and I'd imagine it will stay that way.

    Bonus Room Nov 15.JPG
     
  14. JeffC

    JeffC Well-Known Member Donor

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    I also have a couple of pairs of GR Research AV1s. Great little bookshelf speaker. I have a pair in my gun room and a pair in my front garage.
     
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    CJ Bronze Member Admin Top Poster

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    I question even this aspect in this day and age. You're going to take a design by some yahoo on an internet forum and build it in your garage and put it up against a design built by specialists with decades of industry experience with access to measuring tools, software, anechoic chambers, and then manufactured to tight tolerances? In my experience where DIY has an advantage is if you put very low priority into how nice something looks as manufactures will indeed put money into aesthetics that don't necessarily make the product sound better.
     
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    Denton Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Yes, they are.
     
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    DYohn Bronze Member Donor Top Poster

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    Well I did say, "if you know what you're doing." :)
     
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    Dustin B Well-Known Member

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    In this day and age the opposite is more true. Digital gated measurement software and high quality microphones are readily and inexpensively available. So any yahoo can do at home what took major resources a few decades ago. Nobody is making the drivers. That would be very tricky and the only part that requires really tight tolerances. Non of the rest requires anything terribly specialized any more.

    Just like it will depend on the manufacturer it will depend on the yahoo. A lot of high dollar high end speakers only measure great directly on axis (and sometimes not even that). When some diy guys did polar plots on them it wasn't pretty. They are just as prone to believing they have the magic sauce as any serious diy designer. Proven design built by many that measures well is no more of a risk than any other manufactures product.
     
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    DustinDavis Well-Known Member

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    Hold on, what the heck is a "gun room"? I live in Texas and have never heard of this.
     
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    JeffC Well-Known Member Donor

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    It's just a room in my basement where all my gun stuff is. My safes are in there, and my reloading bench, and a table where I build rifles, do trigger jobs, replace springs, etc.
     

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